So given my crapiness at DPS, I decided it was time to try and be a better player and not be a clicker. I am not saying clickers can’t be good players, but there is definitely something to be said for not having to move the mouse when you need to use a new spell.
A few weeks ago, I set up my buttons to be more conducive to button pressing and I set up the buttons on my mouse, I tested out the settings on a target dummy and then promptly freaked out every time I was in combat and went back to clicking.
As per my previous posts a couple of days ago I was discussing it with people again and decided I had to give this a serious attempt. I headed to the Timeless Isles with good intentions and once again got into combat and started clicking. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!
I spoke to Lominari about it and we decided my issue was movement. I don’t want to die in the fire and that worries me more than anything which is what makes me nervous. So, I spent probably 30 minutes running around the shrine, just using my mouse as my mover and keeping my fingers over the buttons I would normally use for spells so that I could get used to the sensation. I have to re-programme 9 years of playing – this is not going to happen overnight.
I went and killed some stuff when I was more confident, but realistically I kill things fast and even on the timeless isles the mobs were dying pretty quickly. I needed a boss.
Flex. Oh Flex how I adore thee, let me count the ways.
I don’t have any logs for the previous flex’s we have done so I can only go off the numbers I think I remember in my head but I think I did ok. I warned everyone that I was re-learning and that I would possibly suck and die. I requested the healers not heal me if I was standing in the poop because I needed to pay the price for not moving – which would in theory make me better. I died only once on trash before Siegecrafter and I am still not even sure how that happened.
I also requested Drauka, Owl and Aza to keep reminding me not to click incase I fell back into habits. They reminded me and I can happily say -the only clicking I did, that I shouldn’t have was the dream phases on Garrosh – I freaked a little. At this stage I don’t have any of my AOE keybound so I was having to click that, but I am not overly worried about trash – I am concerned about my DPS for the bosses.
So, on Garrosh, I managed a staggering – 203k DPS. This was better than my previous attempts as far as I can remember I never hot 200k for Garrosh…I was close, but could never push over that ledge.
I can’t remember what boss this was after….Thok maybe? or Spoils possibly, either way it was much better than I usually do on said fight and hence why I took a picture of it.
So I am pretty happy with the above numbers, they are still well off where I could be – but it was my first night not clicking – and I saw improvement on my usual numbers – this is good in my book. We also didn’t have anyone providing the 7% buff to haste which my gear is built around having, so I was not haste capped and although that is not really a major increase, it is still something I was lacking. I also later realised my pet had been passive on Garrosh for the last part due to the previous dream phase and that would have reduced my DPS a little bit.
Overall, I think this was a very positive first attempt. I didn’t die to anything stupid, I did manage higher DPS even though I was stuffing up my rotation about 30% and I was getting confident with it by the end of the run.
Let’s see how I go over the next few weeks trying to continue it when I am not in a run.
Every once in a while I discover my stupidity knows no bounds. In fact this first bit Lominari was quite happy about as he “got to teach me something about WoW” which we did have a good laugh about.
For the past few weeks I have been thinking of taking my pally into LFR, but I want tank gear without tanking. So people had been telling me to just go and and loot change it. Me, being stupid thought they meant to go in as tank spec but just choose DPS – isn’t that what we used to do? I didn’t want to do that though, I felt I should at least try to DPS if I was going to be in there to get some loot.
Finally after chatting about in guild the other day, I mentioned it to Lominari and how I felt bad about doing that, he laughed at me and said to just change the loot drops. I stared at him blankly for a few moments, silently thinking he was crazy.
He showed me :
I basically screamed at him : WTFTFTFTFFTFTF!!!!! Yeah, I missed that one. Had I known that I would have gone into LFR much sooner. The entire guild waffling on now makes sense to me. I understand why it is so easy now and how it is even more impossible for people to be tanking with no gear…there is really no excuse for it – AT ALL!
However after having finally jumped in there with pretty bad gear – mix of prot setup gear and ret from the timeless isles, I am not sure I am cut out out for retribution. I sort of suck. BIG TIME!!
That shot of DPS was from Ji-Kun – I am number 20. TWENTY!!! I didn’t even think DPS went that low. I am hating questing and I am hating raiding because I cannot kill anything. We won’t dicuss our time on the Isle of Thunder, Lominari on his rogue killing stuff at 90k DPS and me struggling with one mob. He generally comes and helps me after he has killed the other 5 or 6 standing nearby.
I will continue to see if I can get some gear on my pally and once I get some ret gear happening so I can so at least be midpoint on DPS, I will start worrying about my prot gear. I would like to get enough that maybe I could tank some normals/Flex with the guild as practise or relax runs…just to see if I am any good in a raid environment or if I have lost it completely.
From a stat point of view, I have met all the requirements and I am following what I believe to be a pretty basic rotation (need to do more reading though) but I feel that my DPS should just not be that low. Some of the guys in the guild say ret pallies are sucking anyway and so I may just always suck with her. We shall see – a few more LFR’s and maybe it will start picking up.
Another idiotic thing I have done recently, was to sort of, possibly…maybe….forget what buff I was using on my mage. I was complaining bitterly, in guild chat a few weeks back about why my stats off Ask Mr Robot were not matching with my in game stats. After much discussion with guildies (and I think they were pretty sure I am mentally challenged) I discovered that I was missing some of my haste because I was using my mage armour and not my frost armour. Yes, I was missing 7% haste and wondering why things were not working as intended.
And it just keeps on coming, I finally moved my druid over to be with the rest of the family (YAY) and realised I have been playing my level 90 druid without one of our fairly important spells since I reached max – Astral Communion. I only discovered this as my bars got all messed up in the move and as I was re-adding all my spells to my bars I found it. I will point out, I had wondered what everyone was talking about when I would read balance guides because I could never find the spell they were talking about. For shame!!! Made worse by me going into LFR and doing Durumu in Tauren form and not Boomy, funnily enough – all my buttons were fine once I changed forms. Yes, this would have to be the worst mistake yet.
Since magecraft forums disappeared a while ago I have been trying to find a new resource that I could utilise for help from other mages in a non volatile environment.
So whilst trolling the interwebs about mages, I found it!!
I have registered as well,
but haven’t posted anything as yet. I am lurking and reading everything I can in the “help me” forums. I posted and jumped into it!!
My DPS has been medicore at best – and that annoys me – mages are supposed to be kicking arse and I am simply not. In my mind, I was following my rotation and doing everything correctly, but based on other people’s response to the combat logs – I am doing a few things less than I should be and some things more than I should be.
My uptime on my Living Bomb should be at least 95% – on Sha of Pride – I was managing 75%. So need to lift that up more.
I am also using ice lance too much, I should just work on my movement so that I move stop and cast frostbolt sooner/cleaner than running too much (always been a problem of mine). According to some tips, my Fingers of Frost and ice lance should be about equal – and my ice lance is much higher – dare I say almost double in some cases. This is a lot of wasted time that I should be using frostbolt – as you can see below – I have only 25 Fingers of frost – yet I have 161 Ice Lances. Fingers of Frost allows 2 charges, so even if you double the amount – the most I should have is 50 Ice lances – and even then that would probably be too much (and I am not entirely convinced it works that way – some people suggest only using it when it has the full 2 charges, other says it doesn’t make a difference!). Either way, it tells me enough to know I have to stop using Ice Lances :p
There are also notes that Brain Freeze and Frostfire should be equal and I think mine are pretty close, I have extra as I use Presence of Mind with frostfire, but I am wondering if that is not the best use of talents. I may need to change it to Ice Floes and learn how to cast and move on the go, I know I was terrible on it with my shammy and chain lightning, but we can see how it goes – if it increases my dps potentially then I should at least try it.
I also discovered that my evocation is not as high as I thought it was – at 79% this should be much higher – at least 90% would make me happy.
Anyway, I am happy to have found this new forum where I can read about and learn how to better my playstyle – little things like the above are things I should have picked up – and yes I should have been reading the logs sooner, but I have been slack and really the only raiding I get is Flex, so it is hard to stay practiced when you don’t actually get to raid much. So, watch this space over the coming weeks, I will try and see how I go with some focused attention to my procs – and no – I am not even going to start with the slingshotting of Living Bomb…that may be out of my reach….LOL
Yeah, we were not flexing, we were fluxing, we started with the last wing on Saturday – we wiped – a lot. It was good. Yeah, I love wiping – it means I am raiding and doing what I love.
The trash before Blackfuse was horrific – I was told when I first went back to raiding that the trash was really hard – and I can’t dispute that. We almost wiped, but a couple of us survived and so I therefore say it was not a wipe, just a lot of the raid died.
Blackfuse – was a pain in the buttski more because the first couple of times people were dropping their shit all over the place, but you know some people haven’t seen the fights, weren’t on vents etc so I can forgive that – but next time….yeah next time I will spank them!!
Garrosh finally makes sense now, I asked what the catalyst was for movement and that cleared everything up. So I managed to do about 160k on the fight, given that is my 3rd time on him in Flex, I think that will only increase when i get better at it and know what I am going. On one of those attempts I actually had DPS at about 220 for a sustained period!! Woot!! (Thanks to the swanky meta gem I now have!)
We killed Garrosh and then decided to do Wing 1 – I got an upgrade to a trinket I already have which was pretty cool, but other than nothing else, I used my rolls a couple of times hoping for better leggings, but managed to score gold every time.
We smashed through wing 1 and survived one boss with 30 seconds left on enrage and Sha with a hunter attacking the boss whilst we were all buffing after a trash wipe, if we can survive those things we can survive anything.
I do wonder though if there is something that changes between flex and LFR – as I can do much better DPS in LFR on the same fights – I wonder is there more movement in Flex and so you lose some measure of DPS, or do the bosses take less damage in LFR then Flex? Not sure, I will investigate though as it sort of bums me out when I can see much higher numbers in LFR on the same fights.
It was a good night, I tried to talk a little more on vents so as to not freak out my raid leader again, but I was just enjoying my time in raid, I didn’t get any Titan runestones at all!!! All those boss fights we did and ZERO!!!! Devastated!!
I have made some significant improvements to my mage with regards to my build, and I noticed it in LFR where I mainly in the top 1 or 2 position with 200k (or anywhere from 180k+) DPS. I have gone for a full haste build as my gear allowed me to stack the haste needed to be maxxed out in raid with the 5% extra buff – super quick and mobile essentially.
Not very exciting I know, but I am still without the meta or my cloak, and I think those figures are quite enjoyable to see for someone with a medium level gear score. Maybe I could do better, but I think that is highly improbable, I am playing at the best I can right now..the only thing I am missing a little too much is my evocation buff…I tend to miss it about 40% of the time, which means I am missing out a fair bit of DPS increase. Anyway, that is something that will just take practice given I only recently added it to my rotation, I am not going to beat myself up about it just yet.
Anyway, this post was about freaking our my raid leader, which I think I did superbly last night, by just being my usual raider-self.
After spending 5 years as a GL/RL, I do enjoy sitting back and just raiding without having to contribute to the conversations going on in vents, however this is the complete opposite of me when I am doing almost anything else….you generally can’t shut me up!
Nav was a little worried last night that I was unhappy with being pulled into raid in a normal….I was more like this behind my vents microphone:
and secretly I was not talking much because I was so nervous about being in the raid I was more like this with the rest of the raid team:
I did ok DPS on some fights – like the Shamans I was at about 160K and I am not sure about the scorpion one, on Gen NAz I did approx 170k as well. Of course that isn’t everything, but I need to get my DPS up above 150k if I want to kill Garrosh on Flex (and perhaps one day as normal) consistently with all the moving.
My love of raiding means I am completely focused when we do bosses…no talking, no laughing, no joking, I spend the entire boss fight forgetting to even breath because anything else might make me lose my rotation. It has always been this way and even when raid leading I used to get so focused on what was going on I would forget to actually raid lead sometimes
The larger issue is that I am still essentially new to the guild – and certainly to their raiding team. I am nervous around them – they run heroics…and here I am hoping to be in the same raid team as people that I have always aspired to be like, that I have read about for ages and amazed at their progress. I see myself pushing everything I can to get to 160k DPS and then end the fight to see me sitting at 4/5th spot due to their heroic geared DPS doing 250+K dps…I feel stupid.
It won’t be that way forever, I know…I am only one secret off the next part of the legendary which means I get the meta gem, and miles off the actual cloak..but it is one step closer.
Anyway, TL;DR version is if you want to freak out your raid leader be very quiet in vents and too scared to talk :) eheheh
Last week before shut down whilst I was on holidays and hubby was out for the evening, a couple of guildies decided to run some old content (they do this regularly chasing mounts) and I tagged along as I wanted to get some achievements, mounts would be awesome – don’t get me wrong – but I am more concerned with getting my achievement mounts first – they do have a much higher drop rate :p
Anyway, to cut a very long eventful night short, we ran ICC (H 25 man), Uld (I think it was H 25 man), Firelands (H 25 man) and then ToT (10).
I kid you not – I KID YOU NOT!!!! We 5 manned all of it and I scored so many achievements! I have added them all into a gallery because let’s face it, you don’t need a huge long arse post with every single screenshot and let me tell you there were heaps of them!!
I am now only one achievement off my second ICC mount – SOOO CLOSE!! I can taste it! I still need every Ulduar one in 10 man for my drake, I am now 23/25 embers off for my legendary staff and I am now halfway through the achievements for the mount in FL as well.
It was pretty exciting though as Owl managed to complete his legendary staff quest – and bug it out whilst trying to pick it up – it worked in the end though – and I was soooo excited and completely jealous! So I am going to try and find some way to get into FL more regularly now just to get this done and perhaps the achievements for the mount. He kept saying he was going to delete it or trash it, and I may have to kill him for comments like that – I would give my left..well…body part for it!
We had very few wipes overall and seriously some of the DPS these guys can throw out had me in just complete and utter awe! I just felt so completely outclassed! I mean I know my gear isn’t great, but seeing people hitting 800k or more just makes me feel useless at 160k….really useless. I hope that playing with awesome players will help keep me on my toes and wanting to improve my playing as well. I can’t guarantee I will ever be as amazing as those guys – but I will be damned if I am not going to try my hardest!
So here is the gallery of all the shots I got today!
So returning to a game you love is pretty difficult because it is amazing the amount of information you forget that at one time seemed really important, but that you don’t realise you have forgotten, because like a remembral – you can’t remember what it is your forgot, even if you do know that you have forgotten something.
I have spent the last month trying to find Evocation in my spellbook, because I realised I had a glyph for it, but wasn’t using it. I spend about 15 minutes every night trying to find it thinking I have missed it on each page, I checked my talent trees to see if it something I needed to spec into now, and concluded I was crazy because it was gone. I finally decided this morning to google it…turns out…I am using rune of power (duh – which I knew) but that is what replaces evocation! IDIOT!!! IDIOT!!!!!!
Of course, that is nothing compared to the idiocy of last night. I discovered noxxic has a list of approx DPS at differing gear levels, which is goddamn fantastic! I am of course nowhere near for any of my toons – but it certainly gives me something to aim for so I know what I should be doing. Anyway I found this after some heroics last night in which my boomy could not get above 20k and infact the healer was beating me in kitty form as resto – she is very well geared though at 550 something whereas I am only barely scraping into the 470 area. However according to noxxic I should be able to hit about 70k dps….LOL…sure thing buddy!!
I decided then to try and find more hit on my gear somehow, after complaining to the hubby about the lack of hit on boomy timeless isle gear and how I had to reforge all the spirit off because it was useless to me, he advised to check out Mr Robot. I was reticent, but did it anyway and it was telling me to reforge back into spirit – enter my tirade about spirit being useless I don’t need mana regen blah blah blah…..yeah…you can all laugh at me now. Spirit = hit for some classes. What is worse, after the hubby had finished laughing at me I remembered the hundreds of disputes I had seen in LFD because DPSers had taken gear with spirit (boomies and SP’s mainly – I am sure there was another class as well – I want to say shammies??). How could I forget something so instrumental to the classes?
I guess this is the joy of coming back to a game 12 months later, you do forget things and need to spend time re-learning. I know I am still trying to learn how to play again, I am better on my mage because I have played her for so long, but with other toons I am really struggling to get into the swing of it. Heroics are also very hard as most of the time I am running with people who are very well geared and hitting the 180k+ DPS mark, which means mobs die faster than I can cast a spell – on both my mage and my boomy. It makes it hard to see where I am sitting in reality and harder to judge what I need to improve.
I know on my mage in LFR I can sometimes be in the top 10 for damage and hitting just over 100k DPS, but according to noxxic I should be hitting 250k + dps…as a frost mage at my gear level and that is not maximum – that is realistic….no way!?!?!?!? I have to spend some time on a dummy and test out wtf I am doing wrong as I am missing out on a lot of dps. I need to examine combat logs of mages and see what they are doing that I am not. Anyway, I am sure, like the previous things, there is something I have forgotten to do….I just have to find out what that is!!!
I hit 90 on my mage last week and have been just trying to get my gearscore up.
I am playing arcane at the moment as it appears to be the only spec I can get more than 15k out of…which is weird given I have seen myself shoot upwards of 80k as arcane…I can’t even understand why I suck so much in the other specs.
We are still recruiting 2 DPS for the guild for our core raid team, which sucks, I had hoped we would be able to nab people whilst leveling and during this preparation period. We really are just wanting some solid players who can avoid the bad stuff and be part of the team – no idea why that is so hard!
We have only about 4 other people at level 90 and a couple more almost there..they took their time and I am itching to get back into raiding. We were hoping to head in tonight, but since we are so short on people, it may have to wait until next Wednesday at this stage. Fingers crossed we can get some of us into LFR tonight as a finger dipping exercise.
Not much to report really, hubby has gotten his monk to 86 since release, a few more days and he will be 90 and able to get some heroics under his belt. YIPPEE!!
I am doing my dailies as often as I can, and I am close to getting my cloud serpent – I even found 4 eggs on my first day hunting and have not seen any since LOL beginner’s luck ran out on me I think
I am loving pandaland though, aside from leveling cooking and the Klaxxis
I had not been raiding for an entire week. ONE WEEK! I was having withdrawals until last night when I got pulled into a full DS run by some friends :) We did Mor’chok heroic and that was about it, the rest we ran like manics through. I felt so good afterwards…just having been in a raid was enough to satisfy me for a few days.
As mentioned previously I am in the process of updating our guild website with all the raiding information and strats I can find for MoP. I already have most of Mogu’shan vaults committed to memory, just the last 2 I need to work on a little more.
I have done a couple of the Heart of Fear bosses, mostly committed to memory – they look like fantastic fights! Can’t wait! But I have done nothing about the middle raid yet. Yes I have been slack. But committing that many bosses to memory is hard work let me tell you
All this raiding information has made me literally wanting to raid. I want the kill and I really want to see us do it – I don’t want to fail as a raid leader, I want to push people to be better and I want to be better myself.
This of course brings me to my mage. I sucked at arcane, I am now sucking at frost and I am going to try fire at some point over the next few weeks – probably whilst levelling? I am feeling very very uncomfortable on my mage and completely out of depth. I was hoping a run in DS would help me practice the frost rotation and in all honesty I was pathetic. For someone with my gear I should be kicking arse. Is this the end of my mage? Have I really come this far to not be able to do another xpac on her?
NO NO NO NO NO!!!! I will not give up just because shit got hard! If I stop playing her its because I want to…not because I can’t handle the changes! SCREW YOU no self confidence!! I’ll show you!!
Sorry I momentarily lost my train of thought….and it doesn’t want to come back. So I shall leave you here with my little tangent of anger at myself :) LOL
Also found out the store I am picking up my collector’s edition from – isn’t having a midnight launch like they have every other xpac..so now I am going to just go to work on Tuesday, pick up my copy on the way home and get Wednesday off instead. No midnight launch for me
I know it has been a few days since I updated, I had to have emergency surgery on a re-ocurring problem, and although I am mostly ok, I am still recovering and have been some very bad raiding with great pain killers.
I did Onyxia 25 man with my frosties and some other famous people again, it was pretty awesome I scored 3 different achievements. Many whelps, killing her fast and not geting hit with the deep breath…sadly, no mount dropped
Of course, my screenshotter did not take pictures…so I got a new screenshot mod…so sick of the old one not working!!
We also did Ruby Sanctum. The only raid I have never done, neither had hubby. I thought it was a very cool fight for the 3 minutes of it that we saw before the boss died!
I was pretty happy finally seeing that one, I have wanted to do it for a very long time. HAPPY!
I also managed to do a laid back raid with JD and do Onyxia on alliance side Also fun and very fast, we did it 10 man and she was dead before i really even had one rotation off. LOL.
Our guild got to level 3! DING! and is about 46% through the next level. A certain famous person placed a toon in our guild as well and I got all mental about it…hubby thinks I am insane…but I was hooting like a maniac…just a shame I was in hospital when it happened.
We also went back into DS tonight to get the last two bosses. We had some trouble on Spine, but in the end got it done. So we have cleared DS with the guild. We are going to try for some heroics next week, morchok definitely and also Yorashj and perhaps Ultrax.
I know we are at a 30% buff and that makes things pretty easy, it is still an untested group and we still have some issues to be worked out. So I think given that, clearing the content is pretty impressive. We want to get some heroics done before MoP just so we can test out our group I guess. It will also help level the guild, but in all honesty, I am not sure how much longer we will be raiding for anyway since MoP is so close now. We still need 2 DPS as we are still pugging for raids, but it has only been a guild for 2 weeks I think, so we are not doing too badly.
Anyway, that is all my updates Sorry for the long post, but i am still post-op and on good rugs so I have to get everything in whilst I can still actually mostly type